Bill Covert

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  So the liberals are lying about people moving out of Kalifornia.

  by mickbobcat in

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  2. current

  my wife works in real estate here in the midwest.

  people are moving in so much from kalifornia its crazy.

  she said her client told her that they had to drive to nevada to get a rider truck.

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  Hey be nice. After all we gave you our very best Nancy Peloci.
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  Lawsuit: I said GB member Barr that my Bethelite stepfather abused me; he did nothing

  by Corney in

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  2. child-abuse

  here's an excerpt from the recent lawsuit deborah hines v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york et al (paragraphs 158-180), one of 29 known cases brought against the org pursuant to the ny child victims act.

  what should be kept in mind is that gerrit lösch apparently worked in europe (the austrian branch and eastern europe) at the time when the abuse was allegedly reported to him (not a gb member then).. plaintiff was raised a member of the jehovah’s witnesses.

  she primarily attended meetings at various congregations in arizona.

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  10-4 Pete Z

  it was in the late 1990's when the District Overseer Robert Hendricks ?, told me "that is the will of God to suffer falsely and unjustly for the sake of the Wetchtower for a period of 15 years [he said per length to decide circumcision issue] and it should be viewed as an honor and privilege".

  Well it has been 30 years.
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  A bit of history ... for you history buffs

  by RR in

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  2. friends

  i wasn't sure where to post this.

  not sure why i'm posting this.

  it's only going to add fuel to the fire.

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  It was Gumpy who directed me to this site.
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  How on earth can WT lawyers continue to believe WT has God’s backing, when they see all the deception play out in Court.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a post on reddit from mark and kimmy o’ donnell, from the crusaders documentary,.

  ask us anything.. mr. o'donnell gives his assessment of why wt lawyers continue to defend the child sex abuse cases that the organization continues to fight, even though they see firsthand the deception, the lies, the withholding of facts and dirty tactics used in court.

  by an organization that claims to be god's earthly representative, and the only one to hold the truth.

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  As to how they sleep at night. Go back to the TV interview of James McCabe at the conclusion of the Candace Conti case.
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  PIMO elder

  by Reservations in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i’m reservations, pimo elder.

  i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?

  any ideas?.

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  Cool your heals for a few months more.

  It is not the "great tribulation", but it is close to it. If you are watching the news then you will see the name, Irwin Zalkin attached to the Boy Scout settlement. That is a big case. The Jehovah Witnesses are next.

  If you were to track the molestation issue, there are three names to take note of; Anderson, Zalkin, Bundy. You factor in Calif., N. Y., N. J. and other states that in 2019 passed legislation removing statute of limitations on old molestation cases. We are almost out of the covid era, allow the Boy Scout issue to some what settle. Had you paid close attention to David Splane's apostate talk and noted his reference to negative media and unjust court decisions, you are living in the "very last days of the very last day" of Taliban mind control.

  The people have been locked out of their Hall's for almost two years. To watch those Hall's being sold at a greater rate, will be devastating.

  We are approaching the 20th anniversary of the Anderson / Bowen "Dateline" story. That was the "hand writing on the wall"!
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  Splane's "Apostate" talk transcript

  by FFGhost in

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  2. friends

  for any who can't (like me) muster the masochism necessary to sit through an 18-or-so hour commentary on a 30 minute talk from a certain famous/infamous commentator, here is a link to a transcript from splane's saturday afternoon "apostate" talk:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ot7z2e/splanes_apostate_rant_transcription/.

  there are many topics worthy of consideration, but this particular section really stood out to me:.

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  The Anderson/Zalkin molestation law suites.
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  David Splane's apostate warning convention talk

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know this recent video has been talked about already but i just watched it and here are a few things that got me annoyed as usual:.

  splane says that if a bible student says he saw some negative information from apostates and asks us to explain it, we shouldn't look at it or address anything specifically, but instead we should tell them to go to meetings and hear what we have to say about ourselves and also tell them to befriend people at the hall.

  for any person with integrity and/or intelligence, this is not a satisfactory answer.

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  It was the emergence of the "apostate" enemy as the necessity of instituting the need to obey the "slave" in the mid 1980's that made me aware things were not right. I was a elder all the way through the 1975 fiasco, so was well aware of the failure of Matt. 24:34. The building project in Walkill did not set right as they explained they were preparing for post Armageddon building needs.

  It was not until the Kingdom Hall loan forgiveness did the picture become clear. 1979-1983 were empty years. We were even told in about 1982 that if we wanted 'new light' we would have to do personal study and find it ourselves. In about 1984 two things happened; the 'two day' Kingdom hall build and the 'obedience to the organization mantra'.

  1975 was it, as far as Matt.24:34. The 'oracle' Franz could not come up with ideas that could perpetuate fictional 'last generation'. The church had two problems; cash flow, as sale of books and mags. had became taxable and intellectual content to replace Matt.24:34.

  The interest on the KH building loans, remodel loans provided cash flow.

  The 'intellectual content' was addressed by the "obedience to the organization mantra" in that it actually had the intent to shut down minds. I was sharp enough to recognize the scam.

  On this site I am one dimensional. I only have one topic which is the 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?". The year was 1987, three years after the inception of the "obedience to the organization mantra". That article was written for a specific purpose. It created a hunting license to hunt down "apostates"!

  The KH loan forgiveness provided the hind sight that in the years of 1979-1983 the WTB&TS made the switch from being a religious work of Fred Franz fiction into being a criminal RICO conspiracy to hide Matt.24:34 failure by shutting down minds and criminalizing free thinking in order to build a world wide real estate empire and create cash flow by the interest generated from loans which paid for WTB&TS real estate portfolio.

  I was told 6 months prior to the Candace Conti case news release, that the molestation issue would break the back of the church.

  Splane's talk shows that the church is shaking in their boots over the Anderson/Zalkin law suites. I do believe the "great tribulation" is about to begin!
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  Major ABC news article JW'S in Russia

  by Bill Covert in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if someone can post an abc news article on forum, i lack the computer skills.

  please read.

  the main point was nobody is able to figure out motive for persecution.

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  was a new boy

  Thanks I watched and I learned. It is a bit embarrassing as lack of computer skills, it is just a testimony to the covid like isolation of shunning since 2004 when family left. I have been isolated in a absolute sense from anyone who can hold my hand to learn skills from.

  Thanks
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  Major ABC news article JW'S in Russia

  by Bill Covert in

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  2. friends

  if someone can post an abc news article on forum, i lack the computer skills.

  please read.

  the main point was nobody is able to figure out motive for persecution.

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  If someone can post an ABC news article on forum, I lack the computer skills. Please read. the main point was nobody is able to figure out motive for persecution.
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  Leaked David Spane Apostate Rant? (Upcoming Lloyd Evans Video)

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lloyd has a reminder set for a "leaked" video that he will be reviewing tomorrow, but it lacks details in the description.

  does anyone know what video he is referring to, or is this an upcoming loyd evans exclusive?.

  i find leaks exciting, especially if it's something that was never meant to be public and puts some serious egg on the faces of the blundering body..

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  Just an opinion. I think the design of the talk was less about apostate's, their forums in that it was preparatory for the Anderson/Zalkin molestations law suites waiting to be filed once the covid courthouse restrictions and backlog allow for filing. It is just an opinion that the church was just playing mind manipulation when making usage of the evil apostate as a bridge when what they are really after is to create doubt in negative media reporting.

  2020 was an important year, in that the statute of limitations was lifted on molestation law suites. Listening to some one smarter than me, it was there opinion that this issue has the power to break the back of the church.

  Personally I think what Spane was doing was well thought out usage of apostates as a tool to create doubt. Or more correctly an attempt to counter the impending Armageddon.